Herausfordernde Mischung für Inline-Zwilling

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29 Jun 2017 20:57
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Hallo zusammen,

Ich arbeite an einer ziemlich anspruchsvollen Mischung, zumindest für mich.

Ich arbeite an einem Zwilling, wo beide Motoren linear sind. Die allgemeine Idee ist, beide Motoren zum Start zu verwenden und dann in der Lage sein, den Motor 2 entweder proportional zu steuern oder zu leeren, wenn nötig.

Im Idealfall möchte ich die Drosselklappe verwenden, um beide Motoren zu steuern, aber verwenden Sie einen der Knöpfe, um zu steuern, wie viel Motor 2 tatsächlich verwendet wird.

Nur um dir eine Idee zu geben:
Drossel nach unten: beide Motoren aus, unabhängig vom Drehknopf.
Drosselklappe: Motor 1 voll, Motor 2 proportional auf Knopf. Knopf: 50%, Motor 2: 50%.
Thottle-Zentrum: Motor 1 50%, Motor 2 proportional auf Knopf. Knopf: 50%, Motor 2: 25%.

Ich hatte beschränkten Erfolg mit zwei frei gekreuzten Mischungen:
Mix1 Drosselklappe auf Motor 2, 100%
Mix2 Motor2 auf Drosselklappe: 100%,

Aber ich komme nirgendwo hin.

Danke im Voraus.
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30 Jun 2017 13:43
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Please write in English. Posts with Google Translate (to Germain) make it unreadable. What do you need?

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30 Jun 2017 17:28
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Dear all,

I'm working on a rather challenging mix, at least for me.

I'm working on a twin, where both motors are linear. The general Idea is to use both motors for takeoff, and then be able to either proportionally control motor 2 or idle it when needed.

Ideally, I would like to use the throttle to control both motors but use one of the knobs to control how much of motor 2 is actually used.

Just to give you an idea:
Throttle down: both motors off, regardless of knob.
Throttle up: motor 1 full, motor 2 proportional based on knob. Knob:50%, motor 2:50%.
Thottle center: motor 1 50%, motor 2 proportional based on knob. Knob:50%, motor 2:25%.

I had limited success using two free crossed mixes:
Mix1 throttle on motor 2, 100%
Mix2 motor2 on throttle: 100%,

But I'm getting nowhere.

Thanks in advance.
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Dreaming: Weird push-pull called Double Trouble (2.4m)

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30 Jun 2017 20:41
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cool now the text makes sense and I am pretty sure, that our 'jeti master mixer' Harald will have a solution for it.
am following your thread as this can be an interesting mix for other things too.

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30 Jun 2017 21:14 - 30 Jun 2017 21:18
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Look here:

1.) Basic Property with two engines.

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2.) Standard Function assignment sample Mode 4

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3.) Two equal Mixers: Throttle to Throttle

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With following options:

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Switch P6 knob for fine adjustment:

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See sample model file attached.

Sorry for my poor English.

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01 Jul 2017 16:27 - 01 Jul 2017 16:31
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First of all, thank you all for the help and for the great answer! This is exactly what I was looking for. I tried the combination you suggested and it works flawlessly!

Only to understand, why two mixes? I tried to delete one of them, and the result is, effectively, wrong. I fail to understand the logic behind. I presume has something to do with the asymmetric mix, but ...

thanks again
Field ready: Taborca (3.4m), Ocelot (1.6m), Alula (0.6m).
Factory line: FVT-3 (1m), A6M Zero (1.6m), Tiger Moth (2.2m), Grumann Goose (2m) and Beechcraft D18 (1.5m).
Design phase: Szd-20x Wampir II (7.5m), Rutan Quickie (1.6m), both parked.
Dreaming: Weird push-pull called Double Trouble (2.4m)
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